>> right and the thing is we have to strike the right balance because we have a very mason economic recovery that's very fragile. as i said earlier, we have to make sure we're setting ourselves up for the long term. we have realities of budget crisis. very high debt levels. here's the thing that frustrates me, though. at this point, it's all just political posturing. neither side has proposed anything specific. let's see exactly what cuts we're talking about and exactly what investments we're talking about and that will be the time to have the real debate about what we need to do as a country. >> we'll have to both of you back. thank you very much for joining us on this chilly monday morning in washington, d.c. all right. gretch, over to you. >> next on the rundown, she wants to be mayor of chicago? >> know where i am for the last 20 years, you were strung out on crack! >> the former senator now in big trouble. and a little less conversation and a heck of a lot more