track down this concept of winning the future. underneath it all, this is a very big government, very liberal approach cleverly disguised -- he reminded me of a teenager who had beenj" spending $3,000 a month and came in and said, you know, i want to become frugal let's cap me i don't need to spend more than $3,000 a month for the next five years. it makes no sense. the country thinks we're spending too much. a spending freeze accomplishes nothing. we have to dramatically reduce our current levels of spending. furthermore, do you really want the government, which he by the way, said doesn't work very well. he's the one who made fun about the salmon one department for freshwater another department for saltwater another department for smoked salmon. it was a funny joke. if that government doesn't work very well, why does he want it to be bigger?