prebail-out, prebinge spending levels, 2008 or less. >> congressman dreier introduced the ground rules for debate tonight and has no illusions about the process ahead. >> it won't be easy, but that is the message we got from the american people last november 2. >> we ought to look in every way possible to reduce spending as much as possible. >> some democrats made clear they believe spending must be trimmed and hope the president will join the evident. >> i hope the president will be hands on to say he's ready to take political risks if we are to get america's books back in balance for sake of the children and grandchildren. >> democratic senator kent conrad said they look at all the spending, tarp, spending, auto bail-out and healthcare bill and think it's too much. >> what i hear across my state are three words. "enough is enough." it truck people that there was too much coming from the federal government.