dinosaurs because they aren't truthful. again, i think shows like yours, for instance, i think are highly rated because people feel they can come here and they can get a big dose of the truth. that's what people want. and so for all of those people that were out there with their wild hair ideas, i really think that they have hurt their credibility enormously because people simply want the truth. that's the scwawcialt -- casualty aside from gabriel. >> bill: congresswoman, thanks very much. we appreciate it be watching tomorrow night. directly ahead, looks like a massive charitable fraud involving very big names like bill gates and bono. we will have the facts on that story. later, bernie goldberg is mentioned on some big trouble at msnbc. that should be very interesting coming up. long before a hemi engine powed a ram truck.. it was born up here. tested down here. and proven beyond a doubt, out here.