shrugged his shoulders. >> gregg: first responders could not get down the snow covered roads and the family is suing for $20 million immunizing the city of negligence. do they have case. let's bring in joey jackson, and bob massy joins us. good to see you both. bob, let me start with you. as you know government have sovereign hunt in for tort liability and the plaintiffs are suing under an exception, called the tort claims act but they still have to prove that the city's mistakes went beyond ordinary discretionary decision-making which is protected, even bad decisions are protected. so isn't the city likely to prevail? >> well, look, there are two parts to this case. it's going to be the battle of experts, number one. in a situation you put forward, what the standard is going to be the city among their own