it's the bottom of the hour. now the top of the news on studio b, a look at the two of the six victims in the tragedy in tucson, from the people who knew them best, family and friends. 79-year-old phyllis schneck was the oldest of those that died. she was a homemaker for much of her life and leaves behind three children, seven grandchildren and 2-year-old great-grandchild. and arizona's chief federal district judge john roll, whom we're told was a dedicated family man and highly respected member of the community. with us now the daughter of phyllis shneck and former arizona state board president dee dee simmons, a friend of judge roll. thank you for both being here. our condolences to you and everybody there. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> ms. salmon, it's my understanding -- well, i know you were close to judge roll. is that right? >> i was a friend of his.