they are lying about it. pretending -- >> how are they lying? >> the congressman is telling his supporters done tell anyone we are making this a regulation because they won't like it. >> but they weren't lying about it initially, they are playing it down bought of the death panels. i don't think you are being honest tucker. >> let's get to the point. 500 billion dollars in medicare cuts in order to add 30 million dollars -- 30 million new people to medicaid means they got to find ways to cut cost. >> thanks very much both of you for joining us. coming up, as the snow accumulated on the east coast "the new york times" came out with an interesting theory. we'll tell what that newspaper claims is behind this winter weather. counter intuitive might be the word. >> first dr. no issues startling warning. the comment he made that has the comment he made that has everyo