if john is false it is still good for you. -- if religion is false it is still god for you. >> can i try to explain what i think she was trying to say. i think there's emerging technologies pushed by people, like clean energy, and other types of things. what she is probably trying to say technologies like coal are ancient. we wouldn't stop cars because we wanted horse and buggies to keep producing jobs in this country. here in america we play with the market benefiting old technologies like coal which needs to be put in the past where it belongings. >> tucker: i agree. we should use tax dollars to subsidize inefficient businesses based on a they are delay is a lie? >> around the world people are changing the way they drive, produce energy. these technologies are coming, whether government gets involved or not. government should encourage them and move the ball for. we have to fan a way to bring