he's saying that. he also was on the deficit panel so he knows what he's talking about, all the ones that proposed the important cuts, not just discretionary spending which are some of the billions you're talking about but doing the hard work of the entitlement program. >> right. it's so easy to talk about the programs when it's a little bit of earmark spending that doesn't amount to a whole lot. when you talk about addressing the problems of medicare, medicaid, social security and defense, when you get those, that's when the real cuts need to come. >> they have to come from both sides. one will use it as a hammer against the other in a couple of years in the election if it gets to that. coming up straight ahead, talk of death panels has all of america talking so democrats killed the proposal but now the white house is sneaking it back in. you have to hear what is about to happen to you. >> then the profanity patrol is hitting the streets. police writing tickets for swearing in public. >> oh, no! >> you're in big trouble. is this a good idea? it costs one guy $500. >> rex ryan, $5 million. >> and the storm wreaking havoc