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to figure out how to do that. we have got other initiatives we are working at the state level but the matily you have to follow the -- but ultimately you have to follow the law. >> chris: let me ask you as a practical matter about a million people in virginia are uninsured. that is about 15% of your state's population. if you kill what is called obama care how do you get those million people coverage? >> well, the numbers are actually when you strip it down to either people that choose not to do it or have individual medical savings accounts or on other types of programs, on medicaid or different things like that the numbers actually go down quite a bit. we are working on a number of free market solutions that we can use to improve the number of people in an individual medical savings account. congress ought to pass a bill to have more flexibility in the medicaid program instead of all of the mandates, medicare is

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