>> the reason for the ban is what, pete? millions of bags that are being found in the bay? >>guest: well, the stated purpose was the liter problem that flow into our creeks and eventually into the bay, but what is interesting is our own surveys of the liter show that plastic bags are the number three source of liter but we do nothing to address items one and two and --. >> which are? >>guest: you know, it wasn't even presented in the staff report so i don't know that. there are cans and bottles and all the other types of things you find in the creek, but the bags are, the most bags are fast food bags. >>dave: we appreciate your time, pete, thank you very much. important topic. today is the biggest shopping, one of biggest shopping days of the year and people are scrambling all over to finish buying christmas gifts, where can you find the biggest last