pakistanis. >> need more help. we need some help. the isi is working against us and as long as we're allowed to cross back into the border, this report goes on to say and have their safe havens and regroup, rearm and refuel and send people over the border we're not going to get anywhere. here's good news. we're forcing the insurgents to the outskirts of populated areas and beginning to root out corruption but steve, you can't use that word surge. you do not. the president of the united states does not want to use that word surge because david petraeus used it and he kept bringing it up during the iraqi discussions. that's when he was at cent com. now that he took over for mcchrystal and is now in charge of this, it's called disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-qaida in afghanistan and pakistan. >> they're not going to say anything definitive, i don't think, today because they're going to say something like there have been advances in this war but challenges remain and we'll have to see how this all pans out. there's no way that they can say definitively where this war is right now i don't think. >> yeah, not enough progress has been made yet but you hope the