us for free, how -- >> the creep factor on the other hand, is so high, if i -- would go into the computer and know that everything i am doing is being tracked and telemarketers will come after me i'll go on the computer less and i'll be trying to do other things. >> i think that is a great point but i have a solution for that, and i think the private sector does. you can get a browser, that has built in a pop-up ad blocker. and a tracker blocker and these are technologically out there and it is the private sector... >> i agree but also the private sector is making the problem and how do you regulate the private sector. it is all voluntary now. >> i'm with you on voluntary. that is fine but the next step is obama and his pals will try to regulate the internet and you know who makes these rules then? five political appoint teees, o the ftc. >> gregg: look, the economic