>> let's move on to this heart breaking story of the three hill michigan boys, the skelton boys, they have aven disappeared and fearing the worse and father seems unhinged and he tried to kill himself and reminiscent of other stories we've heard, that he handed the boys over to the mystery woman and seems-- what do you think they're doing in jail to get more information? >> look he's right now charged with three charges of kidnapping. that means he'll be in prison the rest of his life and i think what the police want is closure here. they want to find out where the boys are the look, they've been missing since thanksgiving, the next day and the interesting thing is that the mother had exclusive custody according to a court order and she then made an arrangement and agreement with the father outside of the court order to let him have visitation. and i don't suggest that there was anything wrong with that the judge interestingly said publicly, i didn't give that authority to the mother to do that, i wasn't involved in that. what we've got here, such long