here is an idea: if i got $100 and you gave it to me and told me to pay debt, the whole $100 would go on the debt and we have a sense in the public that maybe that would not occur here because government does not have a reputation of falling through without extra coughs -- costs taken off. if it was used to reduce the deficit that is the way. >>neil: but that assumes, and folks are upset that there is no social security trust fund but that is the reality. >>guest: what is the reality. they have robbed that lockbox long away. it never was locked. someone got ahold of the keys and it is a transfer. a government transfer. that is all. and we have the same thing here. so, hopefully, this is the actual net cost of that and we reduce the deficit. and if it is, we can all breathe