busy. running for president. you don't have a lot of time for idol chitchat and when you do have time you want to rest. >> sarah palin, his v.p. choice very controversial woman, do you know her? >> i met her. i met her when i think -- here are the times i clearly remember meeting her. once when we had a reception for governors at the white house. secondly, when i went overseas and stopped in alaska for refueling stop. and thirdly when she came to see -- she and her husband todd came to see laura and me at our house in dallas. i like her. >> you thought it was a good choice? >> yeah it energized the party there was a moment when people are were in the dull drums when sarah palin arrived and boom. >> were you surprised that mccain selected her? >> you know, i didn't know who ,