where the valdez had its accident? -- the exxon rather. >> 20 miles from her. growth the spill from that, did you experience it here? >> no, the oil didn't come up here. >> greta: why not? >> it don't flow uphill. it flowed from the reef to the southwest. it went down through montague straits, passage through the village, past the hatchery at port san juan, main bay hatchery in front of there, there was oil. >> greta: how many miles down to the impact on the environment? >> all the way out to sand point falls pass. 1500 miles. it washed up, came in, kodiak