mind their own business. you have seen me on tv. that's not really what happens. all of you are to believe everything you see gary and i are happily together with lia i guess that's the baby in a new place. >> they really look happy, don't they geraldo? >> delighted. >> the problem is when you have these children involved obviously for the kids it's not -- first of all they have the drama of a huge production team living with them staking out their house 24/7. but then you have the violence the kid doesn't know whether it's real or fake. i think there's an epic of child abuse here. i think this amber poportwood i righteously charged. >> i absolutely agree with you geraldo. i have been saying this since john and kate plus 8. i would would say it's the same dynamic going on. you mentioned the production crews they are trying with all of the camera crews around they