are hard to diagnose, and sometimes they are wrong and the dna will, of course, resolve all that, but if the jawbone of when -- but it's the jawbone of somebody, and whof it is should be identified and if it is a jawbone of a young female, certainly the possibility that it belongs to natalie becomes much more real than just if it could have been anybody, male or female. jon: dr. baden, it's jon scott, excuse my interruption but there have been so many ups and downs in this case. >> that's right. jon: for natalie's poor family. you have to feel for them, at what could be, you know, a false alarm, but it certainly sounds -- i mean, you were here the other day with us and said how many people have gone missing on aruba. it's not that large an island. and to find the jawbone of a young woman on a beach, and apparently near a spot that