through the image but they were not champions of the civil rights movement, when you look at history and the image is powerful and destructive. it led to my brain washing. >> mike: you wrote, companion guide for the life of frederick douglas and you parallel the issue of slavely he was articulate about and talk about political slavery. what do you explain to them when you say you are' frederick dougla douglass. >> when you invoke his name, in terms of being an american icon you get their attention. it piques interest and you get' chance to engage and it is powerful when i say as a black american, that is my ethnicity and when someone not a black american says they are a frederick douglass republican it gives them a chance to engage. and create atmosphere for political dialogue, would i be