less valuable in the jobs market than people who had not been to the university at all. >> doesn't media study mean watch television? >> that's one of the things it very much means. >> can what is happening over there happen here? >> you have a much better understanding of people who ought to pay for what they get. it shouldn't be provided by the government. i hope that the tea party is through it, the anti-big government spurt, the anti-handout spurt will keep you safe from this disaster in england. we have a $7 trillion national debt. now -- >> our debt can beat your debt. >> i know it can. but you're a much, much, much bigger economy. that's rubbish. >> interesting stuff. the author of "welcome to obamaland." thank you very much for joining us live. >> thanks a lot. >> meanwhile, straight ahead, they witnessed the assassination of john f. kennedy. two secret service agents here to tell their side of the story. they're here next. who blew the whistle on russian