successful as he was politically and as popular as he was when he left office, i think has indicated that he almost wished that his -- the time of his presidency had been a more tumultuous and consequential time and the bush era was a momentous aera, no doubt. martha: the partly part of his presidency was pre-economic crisis and now we are so mired in it, the things he was under pressure most was the iraq war and interrogation of suspects and let's play this bit of the interview he did on nbc with mat lauer and i want your thoughts on this part, brit. >> a former republican co-chair of the 9/11 commission said they got legal opinions they wanted from their own people. >> he obviously doesn't know. i hope mr. cane reads the book. i've written the book and he can draw whatever conclusion they want, but, i will tell you this: using those techniques saved