charges in yemen against awlaki. how serious do you take about that and what about the talk about the cia going in there as a special ops force in yemen? >> if we knew where these guys were, much like if we knew where bin laden was, we'd go in and get him. we have pretty good cooperation with the -- there are parts of yemen that nobody controls, the saudis, a lot of these guys were al-qaeda that were in saudi arabia that went after the saudis and the saudis chased them down or kicked them out and they're fighting in yemen so the saudis are worried about this, so the yemen government, the saudis and the united states were all in the country, were working the problem, but there's a lot of rough country out there, and you know, people forget, you know, remember eric rudolph, the guy that bombed the atlantic city -- the atlanta bombing during the olympics? he was hiding in the united states, and it took us decades to find him. this is inside the united states. so you can imagine in wild places like waziristan and yemen, a couple of people