[ talking over each other ] >> first of all, fair enough on her point. she took office at the characterization of a reality show. i'll accept it is a traveling of alaska. i'm an analyst for fox. i'm called upon to analyze how people position themselves for president. i said i didn't see how the show on discovery channel helped her position herself for president. we know she loves an -- alaska and the outdoors. i could be wrong. i thought it would hurt bill clinton to play his saxophone on television. i'm scratching -- i'm scratching my head as to why the president is having ryan seacrest interview him this week and why he went on john stewart's brahm program. i admit i could be -- program. i admit i could be wrong. she had to take time often campaign trail to do this travellog about alaska.