>> we have seen that. >> it is legal, maybe unorthodox, if you offer people a ride to the polls, that is okay. >> they were bussing high school kids in ohio, to vote, ones of age to vote and gave them democratic sample ballots and rewarded them with ice cream and this is the time, though, where we do have the power to watch and observe and we will not get rid of voter fraud overnight, like fraud and deception has been here since probably jacob pretended to be esau and now we have the tools and apps you can use to report voter fraud and it's harder and harder for people to hide this stuff. >> tom? >> i feel we are being forced to accept voter fraud as part of the election process. >> but i think it is part of it and always has been. that was your point. >> something has to be done about night yes, that is why we are having the show and why i think some prosecutors are doing a good job of going after voter fraud, the prosecutors pursue more voter fraud cases if they