them. jenna: that's what you say americans want, move of -- more of -- i don't know if it's appropriate to say a nationalistic known some of the politicians rather than partisan-based politics. then where will we find that post november 2nd? does that mean the president has on opportunity -- an opportunity there or is there a third party that emerges that represents that? >> the president, that's how he got agency dollars -- elected, he campaigned promising he would be that kind of president and he has been in many ways of being divisive and polarizing and it's frustrated the depressed the country. i'm telling you, this recollection is a weigh station, this is the red default button election, the country is going to stop what's going on, but they're not happy with the republicans, they're not endorsing the republicans, they're looking for something different and i guarantee november 2nd, we only begin to go down a road that will be even more interesting than we have the last two years. jen je we look forward to having you on that road with us, pat, pat caddell, thank