they stood up to nancy pelosi. but, you know, that is the first one to tell the president to shove it. that's a new dimension. of the fact is, the poll numbers show, bret, the president is unpopular. the packages are more unpopular, stimulus package, cap-and-trade, climate bill and healthcare bill. obamacare as some of us call it. that is not what they call it at the white house. he is unpopular, those are unpopular. the policies are unpopular and the economy is not in good shape. that is a bad package that the president identified with. >> bret: juan, remember, i guess it was january, congressman retiring arkansas congressman marion berry met with the bluedog democrats and the president at the white house. back then he said the president said the difference between 19 #4, the democratic -- 1994, the democratic losses that year and this coming year was him.