be if they take control of the senate and i think that's hurting pat toomey in pennsylvania. >> both candidates are trying to paint the other as extreme and both are trying to paints a the ultimate political insider. and west virginia, you have joe manchin on your show as well. he's the democrat, but you wouldn't know that the way he's running. >> and i would have to say that because of the way he's governing, either. the strangest race, joe manchin is an enormously popular democratic governor of west virginia, 68% approval rating. he's been endorsed for senate, by the u.s. chamber of commerce and national rifle association and leading 1 1/2 points against businessman john racy. the reason is, as much as they like-- that makes it look. that has raese in front and the real clear politics, manchin ahead 1 1/2 points and it's very, very close. as much as west virginians