that they probably learned and i think it is a good lesson for democrats, talking to "the new york times" is not necessarily the solution to every problem. but, i think that what we see as far as what the story says, about how they are looking back at lessons learned. the biggest mistake they've made is that they outsourced whole parts of their public poll see to nancy pelosi and harry reid. -- and that true the administration to the left and they are paying the price for. >> chris: i don't know if you todd can see it up on the screen you can see the motorcade the president heading to andrews air force base flying up to massachusetts today to campaign for governor patrick who is in a tough race there. let me pick up on that. one of the things, the subtext in the article is obama 2.0. they say he's started talking to his top aides about that.