actually, what private fire departments were like throughout centuries of history through the roman times, show up and not put out the fire unless you paid them off at that point. that's why we have public fire departments and the way you solve this problem is with credit report, taxes, you can go to jail. that's how a normal society solves a problem. you don't people burn to the ground. if you don't have income taxes, you don't have someone breaking into the house. >> brenda: i'm sorry, i've got to get caroline in, quickly, 15 seconds. >> well, i would say that this shows the limits of libertarian government. i don't know why there was a fee for service for such an important public good. you know, clean air, clean water, fire protection and police protection, we never should have had a private market model at work here because it affects everyone including the neighbor, but this was egregious, especially involving the pets. >> brenda: sad story. thank you so much, caroline. nice to have you. political uncertainty helping