samples, it's hard to tell. we just tell them, guys, go get it, go take to the -- they show it to us. oh, okay. so what was nice is when we got the video it was perfect it looked like a gun barrel it was perfect. >> now, if the miners are reached later tonight or in the early hours of the morning, the first thing we're likely to see is a test. a test of the structure of the rock. is it sound enough to carry out this rescue operation? some of the early mile-per-hours to be taken out could be one with diabetes. one with high blood pressure or another who is 63 years old. now, this is a slow rescue operation. one hour apiece for 33 miners, perhaps another hour to lower the capsule each time so the entire operation could take up to two days. the original plan was to pull the miners out then take them to the hospital by helicopter but some miners reportedly are balking at that plan. they stressed that they survived by sticking together and that they intend to stick together on the outskirts of this mine waiting for everyone to come out