church, all right, was libel to this lady because the lady committed a sin in the church's eyes. she was living with a guy or something like that. the church, the pastor went on the pulpit, up to the pulpit and said she is a sinner and named her. marianne gun. the courts ruled that that preacher, because he targeted her intentionally inflicted emotional distress and that church lost. >> what court was it? >> bill: this is oklahoma. >> yeah. it's not the u.s. supreme court. >> bill: it's not a federal case. >> that's the problem. no. >> bill: it's the targeted nature of it? >> there is no case on point here. the question is -- it's not whether it's targeted. the question is whether you can have -- there is a tort called intentional infliction of emotional distress. the question is whether that can apply when you are talking about speech. that's essentially what they did. >> bill: that's what happened here. >> you know what will happen if the court says yes to that, with the supreme court. that's oklahoma. let me finish my point. >> bill: hold it wait, wait. so the people know, the original