the gal who is sitting on the couch? >> i don't get a blowout every morning at home. hair and make-up. claire somehow finds time. she's much more pulled together than i am. there are the twins. that's johnny and gus. and then there's one more, oliver. but there's definitely that element of needing to schedule everything, feeling the need if i'm not in control of everybody all the time that the ship will quite literally sink. >> i hear ya. i mean, that's the role of the working mom, right? >> i know. i know. i micromanage. now that they have wi-fi on planes, my husband is miserable. i'll be on my computer saying what are they eating? what are they doing? >> husbands hate text messaging, don't they? >> especially when you're 30,000 feet in the air. >> having a cocktail. it's about time to walk the dog! >> what's on down on there? >> was motherhood on the agenda for julie bowen in real life? >> yeah, i always wanted to be a mom. i thought one or two.