this november. growth the message you are talking about the republican leaders came out with last week was cutting spending, small government. basically things that the tea party says. a couple years ago you had your shot at it and you didn't do that. why should the voters now believe you when you come out with this? >> well, because i think a couple of things has happened. one we've learned from that blunder. when you step away from a principle, that's a foundational principle when it comes to tax and fiscal policy to keep government small, to make sure the tax base is not over liburdsome for businesses and families. >> greta: i know that's your principle. the problem is, you got to have the do with it. >> right, that's my point. >> greta: the american voters are raw. a lot of voters are not convinced the democrats are going to do that or the republicans. >> i understand that completely that is part of why we have been on the road talking to voters and