>> bill: i respect the bible and i take it as allegorical book i'm a christian so the new testament is what i believe in. and the old testament written by prophets. >> i love the way you -- they are both written by god. >> bill: no, god didn't sit down and write it. they were written by prophets and written by matthew, mark, luke, and john. real human beings who took it down. >> right. we are talking about the old testament now. i know all the christians want to get behind the happy half of the bible where jesus walks on water. turns fishing trip with the guy. >> bill: the part of the bible that teaches you to love your neighbor to love yourself. that's what we are trying to get behind. i don't know the downside of that. >> but you can't disavow the old testament. >> bill: i'm not disavowing anything. i'm telling you what i believe. in what i believe in is love your neighbor as yourself and don't call him stupid because they don't agree with you politically. >> if you are saying that some things in the bible and others