taxed every dollar, in other words, if you make $275,000, your tax -- they're taxed on the $15,000, you're in a higher tax bracket and the small business owners are employing the unemployed with the unemployment rate the way it is. >> look at the piece in the "new york times" in the business sections yesterday. a good piece said a lot of the people who net, that is net, after expenses, over $250,000, are sole proprietorships and don't even hire anybody, as the vast majority of small businesses don't net $250,000 and is a false issue and the democrats want the tax cuts to go forward, for everybody less than $250,000. per couple, and i think that is a good idea and i hope we have a vote on it and let the republicans offer an amendment to it when it comes up. >> we would be given the opportunity on the floor, let's do it. that would be great. >> julie: we'll have to leave it at that, jason chaffetz, thank you, congressman and congressman martin frost, appreciate you coming on, fair and balanced, thanks. >> gregg: some of america's biggest retailers are taking a