general election? i think that karl rove is right. >> if the media didn't have the distraction of rove for deepers reasons not just 51 seats in the senate, this tea party movement is a repudiation not just of obama, but karl rove and the bush policies. i think if the media would stop focusing on that, if we didn't have the deep division and public trashing of her and she could if the g.o.p. was behind her and the earned attention and media she gets this is the rah is that would determine control in the senate, could-- >> i do, too. >> i don't really want to be the defender of karl rove here. and i'm sure many people for that role, but you do have to say that while that passion has been attractive to republicans, it's a dangerous thing. >> absolutely. >> i think we've seen the-- >> that kind of talk and-- >> what is so dangerous-- >> i want to touch on the piece ran in the new york times, profile of john boehner, house minority