she plan on enforcing this? >> i think this was -- look, i think -- >> oven mittens duct taped to the hand? >> she is not enforcing it. she is talking about her religious ideals, and that it is easy to become a target when you do that. >> she is also a target because she refuses to call people with aids victims. >> again, i would go back to the fact that at that time she was probably a little loopy and young. she has probably moved on. if she hasn't, she was a bad candidate. i want to go to a segment mere -- segment here. it was from 1996 and they were talking about the concept of honesty. >> it is not respecting reality. >> what if they come to you and say do you have jewish people in your house, and you do, would you lie? >> good question, eddie. >> can you say that again?