what they wish they were dealt. >> peter: why is he taking a shot at the advisors for the president? >> here is what i say about him, number one, he seems to be such a nice guy. good guy. number two, where was all of this criticism when it counted? frankly, when he voted for obamacare? there were a lot of us who are saying to people like evan bayh and jim webb who are supposed to be these great forces in the democratic party, stop the madness. this thing is going to implode. it's a disaster for the country. they went ahead and followed the party line. so now for him to come forward and say, well, maybe they bit off more than they could chew and these guys were dealt a tough hand, you know who else was dealt a tough hand in the fall of -- excuse me, spring of 2001? george w. bush. stock market collapse, then we had 9-11, then later on we had katrina. i don't remember people feeling sorry for george w. bush, with all due respect to evan bayh. it would have been nice to hear this a year ago. not now. >> gretchen: let's continue the