and something worth celebrating. to me the lesson is more of a theatrical francly than a political one. this guy is not nearly as good in the oval office as he is in front of a crowd and i understand there was a desire to do this in a somber tone, but, you know, we have a president who is capable of tremendous oratory and tremendous public motel evaluation and somehow, that doesn't translate as well when he's sitting behind a desk. >> well, you got a nod of agreement i think from bill salmon, he's not quite the master when he's behind the desk? >> i never understood the hype about obama being a great or atore during the campaign. i saw him on the campaign trail hometown in cleveland i thought he's pretty good, but to hear the hype that he was the greatest ortore since cicero i think it was overdone. >> maybe he was having an off day. because i have to say i've found him, and i know plenty of conservatives as well not just because i identify with his politics who found him a great oratore.