are there, even if our numbers are diminishing the iraqiingso iraqis know we'll be there to make it through this transition period to help them take it on their own. jenna: general ray odierno is leaving on wednesday after five years of leading our troops there. we have a new general coming in, general lloyd austin iii, we haven't heard about that, it's not going to be a huge ceremony, but this is happening. what does that mean to the troops there? >> well, i think it's symbolic of a transition but i also think the troops will be sad to see a guy like general odierno leave, he embodies the learning curve of the military, embodies the resolve of what our army and marine corps have done on the ground in iraq that, if you stick to the fight, change your strategy and do it right with enough resources you can ultimately change the dynamics on the ground. general odierno and general petraeus were the two guys that primarily made that happen in the thick of things in '07 and '08 and will be missed but i've heard great things about general austin, there's no