happened. malini wilkes talked about it. i'll put it in context. from june to august, 265 army or police forces have been killed. that compares 180 that died from january to may. the violence has increased. if the iraqis can't form a government and the violence increases, the question is going to loom larger. two things have to happen. iraqis have to form a unified government and have some capability of dealing with al-qaeda in iraq but whatever insurgents remain. we'll know probably by spring of next year whether the two things have happened and probably by then if there is an iraqi government. it may ask for some u.s. forces to stay and liberty up to the president obama and military to decide what to do after that. many analysts that i've talked to there should be a request of some form of u.s. military