out. and i think there would be a limit to the credibility here. and, i guess the best defense is an offense. >> this is a shocking breach of faith and a shocking example of the hypocrisy of the unions and the left and the left and the unions have been intimidating the bank of america executives and other finance executives and sending crowds of people to trample on the lawns of the white house... >> you are right. >> and the bush administration and the bush administration, they were trampling on the lawns of karl rove and, perfectly innocent bank executives who happened to live near the union headquarters and this is a shocking example of union intimidation and now, they accuse sarah palin followers who have not done any intimidation and if there is any it has been done the last five years it has been -- almost all done on the union side and it is a shocking, shocking bit of hypocrisy. >> norman, this is not to take a view one way or the other of unions but it seems they are going to lose their influence, a