that means over just a three year period we will have increased the nation at debt by four trillion. >> greta: i'm sort of used . i'm not horribly moved by that. what moves me is the unemployment rate and jobless claims. this other stuff seems totally inreal. if we need money we borrow, print. tell me why should i be thinking like this is horrible and divert my attention from the jobless claims and the unemployment? >> first of all, you are right there's a saying in washington now a trillion is the new billion. we started in the last year or so talking about the budget in the trillions and deficit in the trillions that never happened before. why should we care about these numbers? it ties into the unemployment rate. the most important stack is can americans find work? -- statistic is can americans