>> and that the girls in my high school, we just did not have sex. we didn't, you know, go-- we didn't have sex, no. >> mike: you believed that marriage was the-- >> well, we, you know, we did neck and all of that, but we had like boundaries, you in, the hand had to be controlled and all of that. i mean, we were like very straight-laced because that's how we were raised and we watched, you know, ozzie and harriet and whatever, leave it to beaver and stuff on tv. we didn't watch, you know, mtv, some girl opening her legs and stuff and gyrating. we didn't have those kinds of temptations thrust into our faces to give us ideas beyond our years. you know, i feel, and i made a lot of mistakes in my life and i'm ashamed of the fact that i've been married four times and never gotten it right, but-- >> but you wanted to get it right. >> i did. i mean, every man that i was