>> they've started inviting people like me. you are expected to be there as soon as the show is over. >> sean: what time? >> until charlie gives out wee hours of the morning. >> sean: this whole culture of corruption thing. rangel is not going anywhere. >> he's doing the a big favor. this education thing, what really disturbs me arkansas is one of the states that is going to get money they don't need. when i was governor we worked very hard to get arkansas out of a long time almost 20 year court battle on education funding. we fully funded education. i left the state four years ago with a billion dollar surplus. now the federal government wants to send money. the real problem is this, education is not a federal responsibility. that is a state responsibility. states that are struggling need to figure out ways to pay for their schools. not to let uncle sugar take care of from the federal government. >> sean: uncle sugar? >> uncle sugar our federal government. they have no business funding what ought to be a state and