i think it was 42, but this number -- but that number fluctuates. ann writes this, because you asked, bya, she says by way of bellsouth, who decides in your city becomes a sanctuary city, is it the counsel still. >> it's almost always the local council, the local city, led by generally the mayor or the supervisors and the council members. >> if that's the case then any city, any town could do that. >> that's right. that's correct. but you know what's taking player the pressure is reversed, people are becoming outraged. while there are a number of these haven, they are diminishing. >> the number is getting less? >> yes. the american people are outraged and politicians are afraid and they should be, because we we have -- we have not done our job. secure the borders, when you secure the borders, you can bring about immigration. bill: when an illegal is arrested, there are fingerprints made and there's a record of a criminal past that person is now being de port.