remains me of the former line of a secretary of the regan administration, he was exonerated from 30 counts of everything from fraud and bribery and all of that, he said, how do i get my good name back? >> yeah, and that adds a little certain element to this whole thing. were they over the top in part because they voted to take or, you know, the majority of them or part of taking over chrysler, general motors, 'cause certainly, if people aren't buying toyota, maybe that helps these guys out. but, listen, overall, all of these congressional hearings have been embarrassment. they're dog and pony show and bought billions and here is the crazy thing, they look so stupid most of the time, but they don't care, as long as they pound someone to death in dagen's point it's never a problem solving. >> neil: and built a career-- charlie, is there any message we get out of this, where lessons going forward, or repeating the same. >> as journalists we should take a lot of what comes out of washington with a grain of salt. particularly this, as you point out. they had congress, the president