it would be a wild thought process, that is yours and your column. how do you see this playing out? is she going to challenge obama for the nomination? >> she's not in the on-deck circle yet and certainly isn't in the batter's box but i think she's picking out bats from the bat rack in the dugout. if obama recovers and wins congress and his ratings go up, she'll be a good person and not going to run into 16 but if obama loses congress and there's a ground swell of demand from the grassroots of the democratic party for a new horse to represent them in 2012, we know that hillary's sense of loyalty and integrity would preclude a candidacy. >> would she ever consider -- i kind of know the answer to this, what you think. would she ever consider being number two on the ticket with obama if he decides to dump our favorite joe biden. >> as she once famously said, i've had that job already. >> well, she kind of did. she wouldn't do that, right? >> i don't think so. but i think that -- i think --