is a two-dimensional depiction of a three-dimensional event and we'll look night and i have not been involved in that this morning, though. >> you mentioned that you were treating this as a catastrophic event. do you consider this a catastrophic event at this point? >> i think it has a potential to be catastrophic and we need to plan that way and the character of the slick change and disaggregated into the smaller patches of oil and you can fly over and see heavy concentrations of oil suitable for skimming and burning and then miles of open water and it's not a monolithic spill, and that is challenging, because it goes across the wide area, that could be to our benefit, because if it impacts shore it's not the whole thing, it is a portion that came ashore. >> not catastrophic. >> i'll act as if it is until it is done and we all should. >> could you explain the subject -- subject to the approval...